Game 7: #1 Ohio State 18, #18 Wisconsin 31 (Final)

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  1. cmstophe

    cmstophe Member

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    Hurts worse than Purdue, for me. We were undefeated so far. Vs Purdue, we already had a loss and no title hopes.
     
  2. Arapahoe

    Arapahoe BEAT TTUN Staff Member

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    What's upsetting to me is that our dline got manhandled last night and they were supposed to be one of our strong points this season with Heyward coming back. We got zero penetration from them, thus allowing Wisky to run all over us.

    This does seem like the same team from years past... I haven't seen a lot of improvement and when they are pushed into a corner they don't fight back. That drives me crazy. The 3rd qtr was great and I saw some hope of a comeback but you can't let yourself fall behind like they did in the first half.
     
  3. Anchorman

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    This is still a very very good team. Top 5 easily. One loss should not have every Buckeye fan running for the ledges. It was on the road, in Camp Randall, and its not an easy place to play. They are now 41-4 the last couple of years there. Really impressive.

    As far as TP goes. Great performance against Miami who is a good team. Rose Bowl win. 2 Big Ten titles. 2-0 against SCum. Very capable and those numbers are numbers a lot of QBs and their HC's would love to have! He does not play Defense who the gets the blame for the loss last night. Period! He didn't have his best game, but every other elite QB in the nation will have a rough game from time to time. This was his first average, mediocre, bad game this year. He is improving and continuing to improve.

    No kool-aid drinking here, but there are facts on TPs side as well and I will continue to support him. Would you want Tate Fivecier? Ricky Stanzi who throws 2-3 INTs a game and has never won a big game? Kirk Cousins who is still unproven in the national stage? Scott Tolzien who is just average? Shoelace who when he gets a wiff of a good D he folds?! John Brantley who is proving to be a bust?! Ryan Mallet who can't handle pressure?! Stephen Garcia who has one good game then blows it the next?! Matt Barkley who is just not good at all IMO.

    TP is still in great shape. Even after last night. Their DBs were really aggressive with our WRs and Posey did not have his best game. If there is one thing we could possibly put on TP is that he needs to get Stoney more involved! that would help him.

    While you certainly haven't posted on here a lot, and that is your choice, its funny how I get on here this morning and there are a couple of people on here who have never been on here or do not come on here a lot and want to post that this isn't a good team, doom and gloom, we are gonna lose to Iowa, etc, etc. That is what JT meant when some Buckeye fans will never be happy!
     
  4. cmstophe

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    Yeah. Agreed. Cam H has been a ghost and our vaunted D line hasn't done much this year in terms of pressure. It showed last night.
     
  5. bucknutz021891

    bucknutz021891 New Member

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    If you watched any of the game or ever watched a football game ever you would know TP is not responsible for this loss...Are you serious or trollin'? We barely had the ball in the first half so how is our offense supposed to get into any sort of rhythm...no comment on first half playcalling either...and our receiving corps. is much weaker than i thought...When Posey does go 100% theres a decent chance he will flat out drop a cathcable ball....Dane is our most consistent and BEST wr...yea TP isnt a first round QB right now (his ball still has alota dive on those shorter routes) but hes gotten immeasurably better from just last season...if u wanna blame someone blame our defensive scheme from play number one and our D's lack of passion when we got within 3 and they couldnt stop em
     
  6. Anchorman

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    But when we don't blitz this is what will happen! I dont' care how great your Dline is, there are only 4 of them going up against 5-6 Olineman. That is an advantage immediately for the Oline. You gotta help those guys. Blitz every now and then for christ sakes. Again Heacock can go, never liked him.

    As far as them not fighting back, they fought back last night. We were stunned when we got down and we needed to fight a little earlier. However, the team takes on JTs personality. Laid back, not getting to unhinged when things go wrong.
     
  7. Anchorman

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    Thank you Bucknutz!
     
  8. cmstophe

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    You think this is a top 5 team???? Oh dear... Okay, look, we obviously aren't going to agree on much of anything but I'll keep reading.

    Posey has been a stiff all year, but that doesn't excuse Pryor, IMO.

    To be honest my friend I am not interested in excuses, like "Camp Randall is tough!" and "Their DBs are aggressive..." Those types of statements do not interest me. I am interested in wins vs quality competition, of which the Buckeyes have 0. No, sorry, Miami is not a very good team no matter how you try to spin it. Pryor was 12-26 passing in that game if I Recall correctly, anyways. He made some big plays but if he wants to be called a good QB, he has to start showing it with his arm. As it is, he cannot pass vs good competition. Oregon remains the sole exception, still waiting for this trend to buck...no pun intended.

    But we can debate Pryor's merits at the end of the season.

    I stick to my prediction that we lose to Iowa, but I can certainly see us winning that game if we improve a lot by then. I do think I said this is a good team- it is however not a great team. I imagine most of the country agrees.
     
  9. cmstophe

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    Who said TP was the only guy to blame? Far from it...everyone on the team is to blame. But your star quarterback crapped the bed last night and put up a bad performance. Why are you making excuses for him?

    I saw Dane pull in at least 3 passes from Pryor that were absolutely awful throws. Specifically on those 3rd down plays..how you can defend him is beyond me. He really looked like pre-Rose Bowl Pryor.
     
  10. Anchorman

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    I am interested in wins vs quality competition, of which the Buckeyes have 0

    Miami is a good team. Period.

    Top 5 team, that will win the Big Ten. Beat Iowa and Scum, and will be playing in a BCS bowl. Mark my words. You can make your 6month appearance on here Troll after we beat them both and absolutely we will merit TP and the team performance at that point!
     
  11. cmstophe

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    Why is Miami a good team? Back it up or stop saying it. Repeating it will not make me believe it any more.

    Calling me a troll also will not validate your arguments. When did I say we won't beat SCUM or play in a BCS Bowl? Quit straw grasping and address my points with facts or just cut it out.
     
  12. Arapahoe

    Arapahoe BEAT TTUN Staff Member

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    Just because someone doesn't post a lot that doesn't mean they are trolling or they aren't a Buckeye fan like the rest of us. Some people like to read more than post.
     
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  13. cmstophe

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    I wasn't trying to ruffle any feathers. I'm just posting to vent my frustrations because I thought for sure we were going to win the NC this year, I called it last year. To see us lose another winnable game in this fashion is heartbreaking.

    I also wanted to see what it's like in Columbus when OSU goes to the NC- I graduate at the end of this year and then it's off to the Marine Corps for me, so it looks like I will not get that chance. So yeah, I'm biased, and heartbroken. ;)
     
  14. Anchorman

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    Then here are some facts: We are still 6-1. Pryor has vastly improved from last year, especially at this point in the season from last years. JT's teams have always improved as the season goes on, with the exception of the 03 and 07 teams.

    We are in very good shape and will be fine!

    As far as Miami goes, Top25 team, beat a good Pitt team that a lot of people thought could be a top10 team, as far as the FSU game goes, that has been the only game they were out of, and that was cause of a couple stupid TOs by their QB. Beat a good Clemson team that took an undefeated Auburn team to OT. Miami is good. Maybe not as good as what some people thought, but I would be surprised if they lost another this year.
     
  15. cmstophe

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    Ok, good, but if Pryor has improved so much...why did he look terrible last night vs a good team? That is all I am asking. I agree he has learned how to pass vs Indiana and Eastern Michigan, but that is hardly impressive to me.

    As for Miami, you must have missed the fact that they are unranked as of now. Maybe they fight their way back into the rankings, maybe they don't...but as of right now they are looked at as garbage. Harris makes terrible decisions, which you acknowledge, yet ... how exactly does that excuse them? They are not very good, plain n' simple.

    You are acting as if I am saying Ohio State is doomed and will miss a bowl game or something. I'm not. I'm saying we blew our shot at a NC last night and it hurts.
     
  16. louts8wings

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    Ok, good, but if Pryor has improved so much...why did he look terrible last night vs a good team? That is all I am asking. I agree he has learned how to pass vs Indiana and Eastern Michigan, but that is hardly impressive to me.

    the guy had a bad night. just like the rest of the team! trust me this game will only make this team and pryor better!
     
  17. Arapahoe

    Arapahoe BEAT TTUN Staff Member

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    Pryor probably looked terrible because our defense was on the field for the entire first half. He had no time to get a rhythm going with our offense. It was 3 and out and not seeing the ball again for 8 or 9 game minutes.
     
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  18. Anchorman

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    I see that you do not think OSU is done for a bowl. I know what you are saying there.

    When their Oline pushes our D around in the first half its hard for TP to get into a rhythm. And yes, TP did not look good at some pts last night. Some of his throws were off the mark. I don't care where Miami is ranked. Still a quality team.

    2010 Wisconsin - good team (so far) - L

    2010 Miami (FL) - good team (so far) - W

    2009 Oregon - good team - W

    2009 Iowa - good team - W

    2009 Penn State - good team - W

    2009 Purdue - terrible team - L

    2009 Wisconsin - good team - W

    2009 USC - mediocre team - L

    Some nice wins there! 4-1 against the last 5 good teams we have played! Again your right about no excuse last night, but its not worth throwing ourselves off a bridge or ledge for! LOL
     
  19. cmstophe

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    We're talking about the 2010 season, bro...what good teams have we beaten..Miami does. not. count. It doesn't matter what you think, it matters that they are unranked, have a mediocre turnover prone QB, and havent beaten ANYBODY. Ugh.

    And of course I dont think we're done for a bowl, lol. We'll lose 1 more game, max, IMO. Doesn't mean missing out on the NC is less disappointing though.
     
  20. Block "O"

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    I can't believe the people trashing TP...stay focused people he wasn't the main problem, it was the defense. That QB got us back to a 21-18 game after he rallied the troops on the sidelines and gave us all the momentum. And then the defense gave up another punch you in mouth long drive for a TD. The defense just plain sucked last night, that is where the fingers should point. Did TP play his best game? No. But he was playing well enough to win that game.
     

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