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Terrelle Pryor 6 37.50%
Braxton Miller 10 62.50%
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Old 12-20-2012, 12:21 AM   #1
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Question Better QB: Terelle Pryor or Braxton Miller?

I think Braxton Miller is what we expected TP to be. But I believe that Braxton can have a better record than Terelle and Braxton is a better rusher and passer.
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Too early to judge for me, TP did win a Rose and a Sugar (kind of)...and if you think about it he should have won a Fiesta if not for a bad defensive call.
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Old 12-20-2012, 04:47 AM   #3
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If Urban would've had TP, I have no doubts that he would have had a heisman and a NC trophy.

Also, if The tat5 would've followed the rules, the same might've happened under Tress... That was going to be "our year."
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I think Miller has better intangibles and is a far better athlete. Miller is definitely the more natural leader on and off the field and I think Miller has a far higher ceiling for his potential. Part of that is the vast difference between this and the previous administrations player development, but I'll take Braxton hands down. Neither was a great passer as a sophomore but I think Miller is farther along than TP was at this point...

When you compare Braxton's sophomore stats to TP's sophomore year...

Miller:
Passing -148/254 (58.3%), 2,039 yards (8.03/att), 15 TDs, 6 INTs, 140.5 QB rating
Rushing- 227-1,271 yards (5.6/car), 13 TDs

TP:
Passing- 167/295 (56.6%), 2,094 yards (7.1/att), 18 TDs, 11 INTs, 128.9 QB rating
Rushing- 162-779 yards (4.8/car), 7 TDs

Miller may not have thrown for as many TDs and slightly fewer yards, but he also threw more than 40 fewer attempts and about half the INTs... Miller tends to make smarter decisions with the ball and generates more total offense and scoring... And given that after next season we'll have an even 3 year sample of each for comparison... I have a feeling that Miller's junior year will put a lengthy gap between himself and TP. Besides, Miller's already done what TP failed to achieve... lead his team to a perfect season.
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Good Question Jax...


Welcome to the site....


Close to call, but I think I'm going with TP right now...

Let's not forget just how good Pryor was in a piss-poor offensive scheme...

Ask me in 2 years and I'm sure my answer will be different...



I added a Poll.....I even put an option in there for Hollis...
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Good Question Jax...


Welcome to the site....


Close to call, but I think I'm going with TP right now...

Let's not forget just how good Pryor was in a piss-poor offensive scheme...

Ask me in 2 years and I'm sure my answer will be different...



I added a Poll.....I even put an option in there for Hollis...
Just give Pryor his offensive line with Warinner as the coach, and see what happens... I really think that those teams that Tressel put together were NCG-level teams if it weren't for poor offensive planning and execution.

The recruitment really dropped off as well... If Tressel had surrounded Pryor with more playmakers like Urban is trying to do with Brax, we could've had a dynasty on our hands.
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I don't think Pryor would've been great in the Urban Meyer system. Terrelle had a lot of awesome runs, but almost never on designed runs or on the zone-read, Terrelle did all his work on broken plays; Braxton is the opposite. Every week the opposing coaches and the commentators use that generic line that they use with any mobile QB, "where Miller hurts you is the 3rd and long broken play scrambles;" but Braxton's yards really came on the designed runs. He really is nothing like Terrelle on the field.

Of course, the offensive coaching staff plays into that a lot; but I still don't buy Terrelle as a zone-read QB; especially compared to Braxton. The vision as a runner is miles apart.

All that said. Pryor won some big games; I give him the edge until we see some progression from Braxton as a passer, which I feel like we will see next season. Miller's last couple of games this season showed signs of progression. I think that's the biggest knock on Terrelle, his progression as a passer and decision-maker left a lot to be desired. He added some passes like the back-shoulder fade, but was still somewhat inconsistent and made one or two bone-head throws every game his junior year. I don't think anyone will argue that Terrelle had superior offensive coaches, but I think he had much more talent around him from day one.
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... If Tressel had surrounded Pryor with more playmakers like Urban is trying to do with Brax, we could've had a dynasty on our hands.
The crazy part about it is we basically did have a dynasty despite everything that you mentioned...
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I don't think anyone will argue that Terrelle had superior offensive coaches, but I think he had much more talent around him from day one.
Sanzenbacher was a stud!!!
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Sanzenbacher was a stud!!!
he was a clutch stud imo

right now id give nod to Pryor, and im not a Pryor fan, but in the end although his overall record will not be as good, i hands down believe Miller will be the better QB and possibly a player who is a Buckeye Legend
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