Secondary violations

Ohio State's Urban Meyer, AD Gene Smith admit 'secondary' NCAA violations; school reports 46 violations in all sports since last June | cleveland.com

you ask me this is why the ncaa is a joke! telling a player good luck before a game???

LOL dick tressel telling someone what gate to enter in is a violation.

Gene Smith not knowing a video is a violation is reason 9,450 why he should be fired.

I never thought ESPN would have blasted this on it’s front page!

46 secondary violations is pretty close to the norm. There is no reason for this to even be news. Reporting these types of things just means that OSU compliance is doing it’s job. If the media plans on making a story out of every team that reports this, then they better get used to putting in some extra hours! If only Ohio State, then they better just go ahead and prepare for a story next year...

i think ncaa should just release the short list of what isn't a violation, holy cow some of those are stupid, i bet saban, miles, hoake and others told recruits good luck before their games, i guess being a nice guys is a violation

Originally Posted by Bucknut502

If the media plans on making a story out of every team that reports this...

Nope... just Ohio State.... More proof of the ESPN hate.

I for one like the reporting of all violations.............the public gets to see exactly how ridiculous some of the NCAA rules are..........

OSU has the second largest athletic department..............mistakes are going to happen.........keep reporting them and educate the people making these small mistakes...

I agree. When I saw this, it made me realize that the NCAA has some rediculous rules and that getting in trouble with them is unavoidable

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Ohio State Football: Latest NCAA Violations Say More About NCAA Than Buckeyes

As the Cleveland Plain-Dealer reported on Thursday, Ohio State self-reported 46 secondary violations to the NCAA over the last 11 months. That's a lot! Almost 50 secondary violations after the whole snafu that led to Jim Tressel and Terrelle Pryor getting sent out of town and the suspension of several other Buckeyes would be a problem, right?

So should we fire Urban Meyer? Should we fire Gene Smith? Should we figure out a way to fire all of Ohio State all at once?

Does Ohio State deserve any punishment for its 46 secondary violations?
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Well, one look at what the actual violations, and it's clear that these infractions are so far beyond minor that the real crime here is the fact that the NCAA polices this type of interaction in the first place and that schools are forced to have compliance departments that track it:

Like first-year football coach Urban Meyer, less than three weeks after he was hired, committing a secondary violation by saying "good luck" to recruit Noah Spence at a game in December. Or athletic director Gene Smith committing a secondary violation in April by filming a video message to a football recruit.

Or even assistant coach Mike Vrabel using smokeless tobacco on the sidelines during football games last season, which was noted and reported to Ohio State by a Columbus-area health teacher and was a secondary violation of NCAA rules against using tobacco during games or practice.

First of all, hey, health teachers: STOP SNITCHING.

Second, nothing about an assistant coach responding to a "which gate do we go into" text from a player's parents, a group of football players paying for recruits' taxi fare back from the movies or accidentally sending a text instead of an email (all actual self-reported violations by OSU) strikes me as the type of thing the NCAA should have any business regulating.

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Funny stuff in here............just the secondary violations related to football and basketball

Some of OSU's self-reported violations

Among the secondary NCAA violations within the OSU athletic department since May 30, 2011, here are some related to the major sports of football and men's basketball. All were secondary NCAA violations.

Football coach Urban Meyer said "Good luck," to recruit Noah Spence before his state championship game in Pennsylvania in December. Contact like that with Spence, on his game day, is forbidden.

Athletic director Gene Smith and alumni association CEO Archie Griffin recorded a personalized video for football recruit Ezekiel Elliott for his official campus visit on March 31. Recruiting videos are forbidden.

Assistant football coach Mike Vrabel used smokeless tobacco on the sidelines during games, which was reported to Ohio State anonymously by an area health teacher. NCAA rules forbid tobacco use during games or practices.

Greg Paulus, the basketball team's video coordinator, was reported to be coaching players during the Buckeyes' Big Ten Tournament semifinal win over Michigan on March 10. Video coordinators, who aren't full assistants, may not coach players. The violation was discovered after a general conversation between an OSU player's parent and an assistant athletic director.

Last August, quality control football staffer Kirk Barton, a former OSU offensive lineman, created and ordered 20 "JT" bracelets for $5 each online to honor former coach Jim Tressel. He intended them for friends and family, but several players asked Barton about the bracelets. He sold seven players the bracelets for $15, charging that amount in an attempt to make sure no violation was committed, knowing that giving them out for free would be an NCAA violation. But selling them still was deemed a violation because players had access to something not available to the general public. The players returned the bracelets.

Assistant coach Stan Drayton last July accidentally sent a text message to a recruit when he meant to send an email. Emails were permissible. Text messages were not.
On Aug. 20, assistant coach Dick Tressel responded to a text message from the parents of recruit Warren Ball asking which gate to use to enter Ohio Stadium for a scrimmage. Texting the parents of a recruit was a violation.

In December of 2010, five current football players took five recruits on OSU visits to a movie. NCAA rules allow each recruit $60 in spending money for entertainment. A cab ride to the movie put each recruit between $1 and $5 over budget, which the football players paid out of pocket. That was not allowed because the $60 limit was exceeded.

The school realized that during three days of the football team's Rose Bowl trip from Dec. 26, 2009, to Jan. 2, 2010, the players received both a $15 per diem and breakfast. That pushed them over the allowable three meals of $45 per diem.

-- Doug Lesmerises

i heard if a student athlete farts in public and doesnt take blame for it and stand up and say excuse me within 5 seconds of thus said fart its a violation