I Don't Care If I'm Ripped For Saying This

Discussion in 'Football Talk' started by onezuke18, Sep 9, 2008.

  1. onezuke18

    onezuke18 New Member

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    Brother it is all good. I was not coming at you with hostility, I'm really just trying to get a point across, and I do it with intensity. I agree with you, starting Bauserman would not have made a bit of difference. Because the problems are not limited to just the quarterback. All I was stating is that if Boeckman wants a ring like Krenzel, maybe he needs to take a page or two out of his book, because whether you liked Krenzel as a TALENTED quarterback or not, he used what he was given (his head and his craftiness) and he did what Troy Smith couldn't, Art couldn't, what Rex couldn't...win a National Championship. And if you go by talent all of those greats I mentioned were far superior in terms of physical talent, but Craig was smart, knew what he could and couldn't do, and managed a game better than anyone I've seen. Todd doesn't have to win games for this team like Troy did...he has to make timely (smart) plays and not lose them with mistakes.
     
  2. CaptainMorgan

    CaptainMorgan New Member

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    On offense Zuke it goes back to our receivers. Since Ginn left we haven't had that big play guy that was open all the time. One thing that people forget is that (this is when I took notice) Ginn developed as a great receiver in college starting at the 05 Michigan game. Those final drives Ginn caught a ton of passes. From there on out he really used his speed to break away from DBs. Even Gonzo, our "possession" receiver of that group was much better at breaking free than our current group.

    Think about what that one top receiver does for your offense. It forces them to stick their best players to follow him, and on down the line of your receivers you get a more favorable match up for every one.

    It shocks me that Robo with his dad hasn't learned how to get open better.

    I hope small and posey can step up fast as that top guy that can break open, because this receiver core would be pretty good if the Brians were # 2 and 3.

    I also don't think it's the routes that are getting called. Throughout a game you've got to be putting some fakes and playing mind games with your man to keep him on his toes. Run right at him and make a move like you're going to blow by him and cut back or to the inside, while other times you do blow by him. The finer points of player WR.

    As far as the DT discussion. Everybody forgets what a monster Pitcock was. He tied the record for reps on the bench when he came to OSU, and he just stopped because he felt like he had done plenty, he wasn't even really done and he didn't know about the record. He was crazy powerful. Bucknuts had a good article on where have the big tackles gone over summer.
     
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    Oh, and as far as Boeckman, my biggest beef with him aside from freaking out sometimes under pressure, is going through his progressions. He tends to just look for his go to guy instead of reading the whole field. He just doesn't see guys wide open sometimes.
     
  4. seismicmike

    seismicmike Professor Einstein

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    Oh I know.. There was one play kinda late (3rd quarter or so) where he tried to hit Hartline on the left sideline, but Robo was open over the middle for what would have been a TD.
     
  5. invictusxp

    invictusxp New Member

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    The Defense

    I'll agree wholeheartedly that we lack a dominant DT to free up our Linebackers. It is interesting to see how one weak spot on the D can effect everyone else. Football is indeed the ultimate team sport.

    I do have to differ on our top 11 being the most athletic ever at OSU. We are incredibly talented at a number of spots, but I still can't equate this roster with 2002's.

    If this roster is truly the best we've had, then Heacock should have been gone long ago. You're essentially telling me that he is to dumb/stubborn/proud to switch things up. His pride and assurance that his system works cost us two national titles. Do you really think he's that bull-headed? He's coached under all types of schemes. He's sent 23 D-linemen to the NFL during his tenure at OSU. He has also been instrumental in recruiting that top talent to the Bucks.

    I find it incredibly hard to believe he is staunchly sticking to something that doesn't work simply because its his scheme. It would take an absolute idiot to stick to something that so obviously hasn't worked in big games. Does Tressel have no authority in this situation either? Does he turn a blind eye to whatever the defense does? If this truly only on the coaching staff as Zuke says then massive changes need to be made.
     
  6. onezuke18

    onezuke18 New Member

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    invictusxp

    I'm sticking to my guns on this one. This is the fastest most athletic defense OSU has ever had. The thing I think they lack from the 2002 National Championship team is the mean, nasty, physical aspect to it. But is this team faster? Yes. I didn't say BETTER...I said faster and athletic, and there is a difference. Heacock and OSU need to part ways, that is my opinion. This defense does lack a mean streak, it lacks tackling fundamentals, and the schemes are bland and tired, and while they work against inferrior teams like Northwestern and Minnesota...they get exposed against the Florida's, LSU's, and unfortunately the USC's of the world. And I think they are going to go to California with the same scheme and I think the results aren't going to be very good.
     
  7. onezuke18

    onezuke18 New Member

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    I agree with you that the Brian's would be excellent third and fourth options in this offense and they both proved as much in 06'. But they aren't the third and fourth options anymore, they are expected to be the go to guys, and they aren't getting it done. Agreed in the thought that Posey, Thomas, and Washington should be repping more.
     
  8. BlockONation

    BlockONation BlockO-CEO

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    I just wanted to reiterate this.........
     
  9. onezuke18

    onezuke18 New Member

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    BlockONation

    lol...I LOVE IT...this guy requoted himself. lol. funny stuff.
     

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