Game 9: #3 Penn State 13 vs. #10 Ohio State 6 (Final)

Discussion in '2008 Season' started by Arapahoe, Oct 19, 2008.

  1. jn25code

    jn25code Well-Known Member

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    Great game and great fans last night~~

    while the fumble was obviously the turning point,it boggles my mind why J.T. or whomever calls the 'O' plays are so damn stubbron.A 53 yd. pass to sanzenbacher put us in good field position,then the same old same old BS play calling ensued.
    Beanie carries twice(against a 7/8 men in the box) on 'D'
    for crap yardage,then a pass(like PS didn't know it was coming)then a punt.I am so tired of this scripted play calling,they call it 'Tressel ball'i call it garbage.Beanie is good BUT dam the deck is stacked against him,but they continue to do it.
    Penn State is a marvelous team but were beatable with the right game plan,we didn't use one,again.
     
  2. asa31191

    asa31191 New Member

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    -browning's false start and then missed block the next play for a 10 yard sack on pryor were disheartening and key for PSU
    -avoid so many penalties, fumbles (turnovers)
    -wells had 55 yards? what happened there?
    -pryor underthrowing....
    -marcus freeman should've intercepted that ball that was thrown right at him
    -did it seem like the clock wasn't stopping when a player went out of bounds in the 4th? we lost a lot of time on that and it seemed like the officials' problem

    other thoughts::
    -this game will change pryor (going off his reaction) he loves to be challenged and this should help him for next year
    -the rest of the season really doesn't matter. we're going to win out, but there's nothing to gain. no big 10 title, no bcs game, a win vs. michigan (woohoo)
    -robiskie played a hell of a game. he missed that 1 ridiculous catch but i wouldn't expect anyone (not last-named crabtree, green, or jones) to catch that one.
     
  3. Arapahoe

    Arapahoe BEAT TTUN Staff Member

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    I honestly don't care what SEC fans or the talking media heads say about us anymore. Who cares?
     
  4. jtothero

    jtothero New Member

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    Yeah, running Beanie obviously wasn't working while the passing game was gashing PSU for major yards. I don't know why we didn't just try to spread out the field and pass more and run with Pryor.
     
  5. Arapahoe

    Arapahoe BEAT TTUN Staff Member

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    Our play calling is so predictable. We're not fooling anyone. Take some risks for crying out loud.
     
  6. jn25code

    jn25code Well-Known Member

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    Agree 100 % ~~~

    but it ain't gonna happen,J.T. too stubbron to change,what you see is what ya gonna get from here on out,a dang shame but better accept it.
     
  7. Killer Nut91

    Killer Nut91 The Real Slim Shady

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    the play where sanzenbacher went 52 yds, that play was run AT LEAST 3 or 4 more times the rest of the night in the same formation. Talk about predictable
     
  8. CaptainMorgan

    CaptainMorgan New Member

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    I too feel that JT's play calling lost us that game. The whole country knew all week PSU was going to stack 7-8 in the box and make us throw on them. Throwing worked quite well, even though they knew it was coming most of the times. Running didn't do anything all night until they were getting tired late in the game.

    The interesting thing about the terrible play calling is that how conservative he goes is based on his trust in his team. Think about last night compared to 06 scum. JT did a long bomb play action pass on a fourth and 1 because he knew his team was good. This current O he knows is weak, and is trying to coach around it. With a freshman QB and a terrible WR core he just doesn't have faith in his passing game, and then add in that our O line is a bit weak right now. With that said I don't think he's doing a very good job.

    On the other side of the ball, Heacock has our defense playing great now. The defense started to cave only because it's being decimated by injuries. When Abdallah left the game at D tackle is when they all of a sudden had success running up the middle and were able to move the ball. He came back at the end of the game and then we stopped them to get the ball back. If we still had him in, they never get their TD. If we still have Wilson and can keep Heyward inside, we would have been alright.

    Gibson was on fire at D end. They just played lights out against a very good offense.

    If anything I think the game should help woo Corey Adams. We played great defense yet showed our lack of depth at D tackle with a game that was a great atmosphere.
     
  9. massillonfan

    massillonfan New Member

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    I live in SEC country. Let them say what they want. Who gives a crap. I hope they just keep beating each other up.
    Go Massillon beat Hoover!!!

    Go Bucks! Lets get the best bowl we can and drill somebody!
     
  10. CaptainMorgan

    CaptainMorgan New Member

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    Actually all we need to make a BCS game now is for PSU to make the title game. Even then most likely we still make it. Currently we are still eligible for a BCS game ranked 12, and if we win out our 3 easy games and the teams ahead of us beat each other up, we sure won't drop any lower.

    You are right about the clock not stopping when people went out of bounds. That is true all the time, you just noticed it in the 4th when it mattered. That's one of three parts to the new clock rules.

    Freeman is still only playing alright, his injuries are hampering his play. I didn't even realize he was hurt with an ankle and leg injury until someone pointed it out this past week.

    Robo is finally healthy, and it really showed. He played like a real WR again. Sanz also did great as well as Thomas. I thought Pryor did great with all things considered. Yes he fumbled when the game was on the line, but he was trying to make a play off of the sneak getting stuffed and the defender did a great job punching out the ball. Yes he was underthrowing the ball, but do you really expect him to progress as a passer very quickly with 10-15 passes a game? He's getting better fast, but he's gonna need to really get game reps to be a better QB.

    Our D line depth killed our defense. They would never have caved if it wasn't for the injuries. Wilson being gone forced us to use Heyward outside and Abdallah leaving the game hurt is when they were able to move the ball up the middle. When he came back, we stopped them and got the ball back.

    Gibson is a monster and he really is having a coming out party.

    I agree that this will make Pryor better. The parallels to 2005 are a little creepy. Troy Smith didn't start to hit the film room hard and really put forth the effort to learn defenses until the loss in Happy Valley. From there on out, he was phenomenal.
     
  11. 2004Grad

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    Pryor doesn't know the offense well enough yet. Herbie talked about it at length a couple of times about how he doesn't progress through his reads. He isn't at the point where he can move from his first to second to third option. The offense will get better but that will happen when Pryor gets better. I have no doubt that Pryor will become a great QB but this is expected of a true frosh playing QB for OSU.
     
  12. Arapahoe

    Arapahoe BEAT TTUN Staff Member

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    Sanz had a really nice game. I am kinda upset that we didn't try to pass more down field. If we passed more then that's only going to open the run up.
     
  13. Buckeye06

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    Ok,

    Can we get this out in the open? Most teams in college football runs a power iso more than 5 times a game, and most teams run off tacklet more than 5 times as well. Just cause our O-line didn't execute doesn't mean it's questionable play calling. Now, I was in the south stands so I didn't see too much of what happened in then trenches, but I seem to recall our O-line pass blocking ok for most of the game.

    Honestly, at the end of this game, I was proud of how our guys battled. They played a team that was averaging 45+ points a game and we held them under 15. TP made some freshman mistakes, and Beanie did not run as effectively as he needs to. I don't think our playcalling was bad at all honestly; we threw on first down a fair number of times, and we gashed Penn State's secondary relatively well especially since TP locks on a receiver for the entire play normally.
     
  14. 2010buckeye

    2010buckeye Well-Known Member

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    i dont want to sound like a jerk or anything, but that play was on 2nd down not 4th.
    Anyway, we would not call that kind of play this year.
     
  15. 2010buckeye

    2010buckeye Well-Known Member

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    i was thinkning about the similarities between this year and 05. man i cant wait until we go to our BSC game and kick the crap out of someone, which sets us up for a championship run next year :biggrin:
     
  16. 2004Grad

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    Not to sound like a jerk but that is the difference between a Heisman Trophy winning QB and a freshman QB. Smith had been in the OSU system for 5 years at that point. Pryor has been in the system for less than 5 months.

    I had a feeling this would happen sooner or later during the season. The vast majority of the board was all in favor of moving Pryor into the starting QB roll this season. Many of us, me included, though Pryor was more along than he really is. You could see Pryor's desire to make the big play, by bouncing the ball outside, coming back to haunt the bucks. How many times did Pryor have a first down this year yet lose it because he tried to break a play to the outside instead of putting his head down and diving forward. The 3-1 play at mid field in which Pryor fumbled was a perfect example of Pryor not taking what was given to him and trying to make a bigger play. If OSU gets a 1st down there they win that football game. Pryor will learn but its going to be frustrating.

    I have no doubt that Pryor will be a great QB. Seeing him devastated on the sidelines after the game only confirmed that for me. However, Rome wasn't built in a day. Pryor will take his fair share of lumps during his journey. I expect to see a better Pryor as the season goes along and I can see him making a huge stride during the preparation for a bowl game. Next year he will be even more exciting to watch and we will see a more exciting offense.
     
  17. horseshoe1

    horseshoe1 New Member

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    b i n g o!
     
  18. cincyninja

    cincyninja New Member

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    That or PSU to lose 2 of their last 3
     
  19. Arapahoe

    Arapahoe BEAT TTUN Staff Member

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    Which would never happen! But I understand where your coming from as it's just a scenario.
     
  20. 2010buckeye

    2010buckeye Well-Known Member

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    hey you cna never tell in College Football
     

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