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Old 04-15-2009, 03:54 PM   #51 (permalink)
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However things work out for Boom, I can confidently say that he is better than Lydell Ross ever was at Ohio State already.
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He finds and hits the whole very fast and with authority, that's why I think he has a chance to have a big year, good vision and quickness.
exciting words, but the order you put them in conficts with itself.

if you can stand the hurt and pain, try looking at Beanie Wells' long TD run clips. Beanie broke more long [25+ yards] for TDs than any tOSU RB since...at least the 60's. Check out the number of big runs Beanie broke...by STEPPING OUT OF THE 'HOLE', AWAY FROM THE CALLED PLAY...often breaking 1 or more tackles of the fine folks WAITING AT THE HOLE for him to arrive.

and Beanie "finds and hits the hole very fast and with authority", as well as any big back we've had, picturing Eddie as the standard of excellence.

how did Beanie do that? Vision, and anticipation. Beanie didnt "have a chance to have good vision". He used his vision to find/anticipate the ACTUAL hole, instead of the PLAYCALL HOLE.

This debate between old school 'run the assignment, hit the playcall hole regardless'...and the 'new' school [starting in the latter 1970's] is a fundamental, old debate about running basics that's...still "new" here at Ohio State.

...helping us to years and years more of..."just as expected".

heck, guys, we still don't run the FB, the other back, use misdirection...running game fundamentals since the 1930's.... So this mantra "establish the run" which we "do well from the I" according to our RB coach just the other day...looks how when this great running game...is missing a big chunck of its basic skill set?
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Strange there was a 5 month break in between posts for the starting RB of the 2009 team.
IGNORE is not "strange" for us; it's a very popular choice...that 'happens' naturally.
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I think Boom will be a good RB but I don't think he gets all of the carries next season. I think we see a "RB by committee" type thing.
just a crazy guess, but i have a gut feel Boom won't get all the carries next season either... ;-{)}

but, it's a tad easier to just keep sayin' who will 'get' how many...than try to figure out why each year we don't get 'enough' ...especially 'when we need it'... ;-{)}

just imagine what we could argue and get mad about if...we "always got that yard when you need it." LOL
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boom will be fine. The question is who helps him? Will Saine be healthy. Will the coaches give Berry some PT. Those are the question IMO.
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I don't think many people on here have a lot of confidence in him as our RB, I'm not sure why, he has proven to me that he can be a very good runner after what he did last year in Beanies absence, hopefully this year with an offense that won't be placed squarely on our fragile RBs back we can open up a little bit more and actually do something, like score in the red zone.

I can easily see Boom having a big year, as most of the pressure will be on Pryor and our WRs shoulders.
i don't think many people know what they have confidence in about themselves, and the more we run from that, the more we are afraid to look.

but i agree: pursuing 'why', is as essential as it is elemental.

Actually DO somethin? Of course any person...could.

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exciting words, but the order you put them in conficts with itself.

if you can stand the hurt and pain, try looking at Beanie Wells' long TD run clips. Beanie broke more long [25+ yards] for TDs than any tOSU RB since...at least the 60's. Check out the number of big runs Beanie broke...by STEPPING OUT OF THE 'HOLE', AWAY FROM THE CALLED PLAY...often breaking 1 or more tackles of the fine folks WAITING AT THE HOLE for him to arrive.

and Beanie "finds and hits the hole very fast and with authority", as well as any big back we've had, picturing Eddie as the standard of excellence.

how did Beanie do that? Vision, and anticipation. Beanie didnt "have a chance to have good vision". He used his vision to find/anticipate the ACTUAL hole, instead of the PLAYCALL HOLE.

This debate between old school 'run the assignment, hit the playcall hole regardless'...and the 'new' school [starting in the latter 1970's] is a fundamental, old debate about running basics that's...still "new" here at Ohio State.

...helping us to years and years more of..."just as expected".

heck, guys, we still don't run the FB, the other back, use misdirection...running game fundamentals since the 1930's.... So this mantra "establish the run" which we "do well from the I" according to our RB coach just the other day...looks how when this great running game...is missing a big chunck of its basic skill set?
Well for one, you're mistaken, because I wasn't talking about Beanie, I was talking about Herron, both Herron and Beanie both run well in between the tackles and have good vision/quickness to hit the hole, never did I say that Beanie didn't have good vision or quickness, in fact Beanie is the most natural runner I've ever seen in a Buckeyes uniform(keep in mind I was in single digits of age when Eddie George ran for us)

Again, like I said, Herron has good vision and quickness through the whole, so I expect him to have a good year, as Beanie did when he was healthy. please don't put words into my mouth again.
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i don't think many people know what they have confidence in about themselves, and the more we run from that, the more we are afraid to look.

but i agree: pursuing 'why', is as essential as it is elemental.

Actually DO somethin? Of course any person...could.

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Again what you're saying makes no sense, we're talking about having confidence in a player on our team to do well, many people know whether or not to be confident in him as a running back.

What does having confidence in yourself have to do with anything? please stop straying away from topic.
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Well for one, you're mistaken, because I wasn't talking about Beanie, I was talking about Herron, both Herron and Beanie both run well in between the tackles and have good vision/quickness to hit the hole, never did I say that Beanie didn't have good vision or quickness, in fact Beanie is the most natural runner I've ever seen in a Buckeyes uniform(keep in mind I was in single digits of age when Eddie George ran for us)

Again, like I said, Herron has good vision and quickness through the whole, so I expect him to have a good year, as Beanie did when he was healthy. please don't put words into my mouth again.

I was talking about Beanie to APPLY YOUR CRITERIA you had written for Boom.

the rest of what you missed follows reasonably, given our first miss.

please consider re-reading what i posted about the basic coaching world conflict between 'hit the hole' and 'run to daylight' schools of thought.

how a Coach tells his RB to execute the play, comes from his 'school of thought' about how the play should be executed. In the late 90's there were some raging debates between Coach Tim Spencer and players/coaches about this very topic.

But, if you do not want to recognize the rational difference between has vision, and comparing and contrasting how to use vision, then we are each left with 'having a feeling'.

of course you can feel that way, but i'm not trying to put words in my [your] mouth". I'm trying to get to a common understanding of what you said, and communicate about what i said.

unless we each gain an understanding of what the other means...we're just sayin' words, feelin' whatever. To me, that's a waste of time.
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Again what you're saying makes no sense, we're talking about having confidence in a player on our team to do well, many people know whether or not to be confident in him as a running back.

What does having confidence in yourself have to do with anything? please stop straying away from topic.

well, back atcha. If you do not grasp that understanding your self affects EVERYTHING you see, feel, think, and do...well... Back to School. ;-{)}

you do understand that you are in every interaction on the inside and outside of you, don't you? And you do understanding that "perception" means how an individual senses the intangible and tanigble around him?
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